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9 to 5 with Avi & Anita

Welcome to 9 to 5 with Avi and Anita a podcast where we talk with excellent women in the middle of their career journey about how they got where they are and where they're going. We're perptually curious about how people ended up in their jobs - maybe because neither of us have ever had a plan. There's a lot out there for women at the start of their careers and lots out there too following women at the top of their careers. But what about those of us in the middle? That's who we want to hear from. We've booked in friends and colleagues working in all kinds of fields to chat about how they juggle life and a career that feels worth it. A little about your co-hosts: Anita Dullard is studying a MSc Climate and Energy Policy, taking time out from media advocacy; Avigail Shai is a diplomatic and policy adviser, and former diplomat – they met working in the international humanitarian sector, stayed for the chat and shared hilarity. Hit up your regular podcast platforms to find 9 to 5 with Avi and Anita and subscribe. If you love it, don't forget to drop us a review and share where ever these good things get shared.

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9 to 5 with Avi & Anita

Curry, a cream egg and a good gin cocktail

December 22, 2021 • Anita Dullard and Avigail Shai • Season 1 • Episode 2

Based in New York, Aarathi Krishnan specializes in Strategic Foresight for the humanitarian and development sector, working with UNDP as their strategy and foresight advisor. She is also a technology and human rights Fellow at the Harvard Carr Center for Technology and human rights, and also a Berkman Kline Fellow at Harvard University, researching and supporting decolonization of humanitarian digital policy and governance.

We spoke to Aarathi about preparing for the future, be it good or bad; the kind of ancestors we want to be; choosing community over competition; class barriers in building the careers we want; imposter syndrome as construct; decoloniality and ethics in the humanitarian sector; the importance of giving yourself a break; and icecream for breakfast.

Key facts about Aarathi

Last meal: my dad's lamb curry, a good gin cocktail and a Cadbury creme egg.
Read: Design Justice by Sasha Constanza Chuck
Watch: horror movies
Listen: Simon and Garfunkel
Favourite unwind: a good drink in a good bar with good friends

Advice for those wondering how to figure out the next step in their career?

Speak to as many people as possible from very different backgrounds to work out what is interesting and what is happening out there. Often we think that the jobs we know of are the only ones that are there…. one of the most beautiful things about this time that we're living in is people are doing really crazy things. And there's different kinds of jobs, but you don't often hear about it…Because you surround yourself with people that are like yourself. Just speak to as many people as possible to work out what the options are. And just because you've been doing something your whole life doesn't mean you have to keep doing it. You can take that and spin it off into something different. Just speak to lots of different people and keep your mind open about what that could be.

A little about your co-hosts
Anita Dullard is a media and advocacy strategist; Avigail Shai is a diplomatic and policy adviser, and former diplomat – both currently work in the international humanitarian sector.

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