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9 to 5 with Avi & Anita

Welcome to 9 to 5 with Avi and Anita a podcast where we talk with excellent women in the middle of their career journey about how they got where they are and where they're going. We're perptually curious about how people ended up in their jobs - maybe because neither of us have ever had a plan. There's a lot out there for women at the start of their careers and lots out there too following women at the top of their careers. But what about those of us in the middle? That's who we want to hear from. We've booked in friends and colleagues working in all kinds of fields to chat about how they juggle life and a career that feels worth it. A little about your co-hosts: Anita Dullard is studying a MSc Climate and Energy Policy, taking time out from media advocacy; Avigail Shai is a diplomatic and policy adviser, and former diplomat – they met working in the international humanitarian sector, stayed for the chat and shared hilarity. Hit up your regular podcast platforms to find 9 to 5 with Avi and Anita and subscribe. If you love it, don't forget to drop us a review and share where ever these good things get shared.

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Intrinsic rewards to keep you going

January 12, 2023 • Anita Dullard and Avigail Shai • Season 2 • Episode 5

Today on the podcast we talk to Carlie Jones, a secondary teacher in Australia and a disability and inclusion leader at the school where she teaches. She has been teaching for around 20 years, so has a lot of experience under her belt.

We talk advocacy and supporting students with ADHD, autism and trauma, the impact of COVID-19 on kids’ education and the teaching environment, the importance of family and self care, and the intrinsic rewards that keep you going.

As usual, we hit Carlie up with the important Qs:

Last meal: Roast pork with all the trimmings, ie. quality crackle

Currently reading: Where the Crawdads Sing by Delia Owens

Currently watching: Yellowstone

Listening to: 90s playlists - here's a banger to get you started

Favourite unwind: spending time with her little piglets (two of the most adorable girls going) and family

What advice would Carlie give to someone who's wondering about the next step in their career?

Take it slow. There will be pressure to take on extra roles and you'll be excited and want to do things but just take it slow; work on work life balance and master your craft.

A little about your co-hosts:

Anita Dullard is studying a MSc Climate and Energy Policy, taking time out from media advocacy; Avigail Shai is a diplomatic and policy adviser, and former diplomat – they met working in the international humanitarian sector, stayed for the chat and hilarity.

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