9 to 5 with Avi & Anita

Welcome to 9 to 5 with Avi and Anita a podcast where we talk with excellent women in the middle of their career journey about how they got where they are and where they're going. We're perptually curious about how people ended up in their jobs - maybe because neither of us have ever had a plan. There's a lot out there for women at the start of their careers and lots out there too following women at the top of their careers. But what about those of us in the middle? That's who we want to hear from. We've booked in friends and colleagues working in all kinds of fields to chat about how they juggle life and a career that feels worth it. A little about your co-hosts: Anita Dullard is studying a MSc Climate and Energy Policy, taking time out from media advocacy; Avigail Shai is a diplomatic and policy adviser, and former diplomat – they met working in the international humanitarian sector, stayed for the chat and shared hilarity. Hit up your regular podcast platforms to find 9 to 5 with Avi and Anita and subscribe. If you love it, don't forget to drop us a review and share where ever these good things get shared.

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9 to 5 with Avi & Anita

In defense of television

January 05, 2023 • Anita Dullard and Avigail Shai • Season 2 • Episode 4

Today on the podcast we talk to Sarah Keenan and navigate her process of elimination to arrive at being a Reader in Law at Birkbeck University, London. Raised on Giabal and Jarowair land in Toowoomba, Australia, Sarah worked in Brisbane as a Judge’s Associate in the Supreme Court of Queensland and as a solicitor at Prisoners’ Legal Service before moving to the UK to take up a PhD studentship at Kent Law School.

It’s an episode rich in how we fit into and bust out of systems and find ourselves through the many wonderful people we met on our career journeys. It’s loaded and littered with recommendations and references

As usual, we hit Keenan up with the important Qs:

Last meal: Vegetarian Lasagna

Currently reading:

My Year of Rest and Relaxation by Ottessa Moshfegh
When Species Meet by Donna Harraway
Mushroom at the End of the World by Anna Tsing
Return of a Native by Vron Ware

Currently watching: Killing Eve - last season a bit disappointing tbh

Listening to:

Favourite unwind: swimming and/or cycling

What advice would Keenan give to someone who's wondering about the next step in their career?

Ok so we somehow forgot to ask this extremely pertinent question, however if we mine Keenan’s lightning round there seems to be a strong recommendation to extend your friend network beyond your professional circle so that you can occasionally talk about something other than what you work on. We do not disagree, as such Anita has since quit her job so she could remain friends with Avi.

A little about your co-hosts:

Anita Dullard is studying a MSc Climate and Energy Policy, taking time out from media advocacy; Avigail Shai is a diplomatic and policy adviser, and former diplomat – they met working in the international humanitarian sector, stayed for the chat and hilarity.

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